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Posted by: sweet_gardenia (sweet_gardenia)
Posted at: May 4th, 2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
science

You know oddly enough when I first read this I took Vi's reaction as indicating she was stretching the truth a bit to Tarvek hence her discomfort. But then I thought 1) Tarvek would be able to see through that if she was lying wouldn't he? and 2) what reason would she have to lie to him anyways? But I dinnae ken :D

Also I want to draw Tarvek with his Broody McAngstypants face with a little storm cloud following him around everywhere hahah

Posted by: murgatroyd666 (murgatroyd666)
Posted at: May 4th, 2012 10:36 pm (UTC)
vonzinzer uh-oh

... Tarvek with his Broody McAngstypants face ...

Tarvek has good reason to be gloomy. He's pretty sure that Klaus has been wasped, and he doesn't think Gil is up to handling the problem alone. And I suspect he's right ...

Posted by: lightningnettle (lightningnettle)
Posted at: May 4th, 2012 11:23 pm (UTC)

Exactly.

Plus, he needs to tell Agatha about both problems; and she's not going to be a happy woman. He probably wants to prevent her from running off to rescue Gil herself. Given her heroic impulses that's going to be tricky.

Posted by: Walter Matera (waltermatera)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 03:10 am (UTC)

Perhaps they can convince Othar to go after him. That might solve either one problem or the other . . .

Posted by: lightningnettle (lightningnettle)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 03:56 am (UTC)

Fetch Gil here, fetch Gil there, what's a Spark to do?

Posted by: murgatroyd666 (murgatroyd666)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 08:23 am (UTC)
vonzinzer huh

Plus, he needs to tell Agatha about both problems ...

Yes, he needs to, but will he? There are lots of things Tarvek needs to tell Agatha, including the fact that Lunevka exists ... and that she has command harmonics in her voice, which is a rather important factor in the whole "Klaus has been wasped" situation, dontcha think?

And I keep waiting for Pinky to show up ... She's protected by Narrativium armor -- she can't have a Rosencrantz and Guildenstern demise!

Posted by: Ариох (the_arioch)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 02:08 pm (UTC)

Tellign somethign to Agatha is like telling it to her copy of Lucrezia.
And probably Tarvek does not know what information exactly does Lugatha possess and does not want to add more.

Tarvek can hardly know it was Lugatha who wasped Klaus, he'd probably account it for Lunevka.

Posted by: murgatroyd666 (murgatroyd666)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
vonzinzer hmm1

It isn't clear how much one personality knows about what's going on when the other one is in charge, but apparently the repressed personality isn't conscious. Back in Tarvek's laboratory, when Agatha faded out and Lucrezia took over, the Lucrezia personality didn't know what had happened a few moments earlier.

Zola and her copy of Lucrezia both seem to be conscious at the same time, but that's because Pinky has a "neural trap" in her brain structure.

Posted by: Ариох (the_arioch)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 11:53 pm (UTC)

BTW, can u fix wiki ?

girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Agatha_Heterodyne#Actress

she builds ✣ a distress signal to warn the world
the link is blatantly wrong :-)

Posted by: Corgi, Hound of the Internet (sff_corgi)
Posted at: May 8th, 2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
Comics - Wulfenblimp

Thanks for catching that. Fixed now.

Posted by: Ариох (the_arioch)
Posted at: May 6th, 2012 12:38 am (UTC)

we can be sure, that without special methods, one personality does not access to other's memories. Pinkie possesses such techniques, which greatly surprised Lu.

It is not clear about independently sensing just-now events.

repressed personality must be conscious, since they few times described this co-existing like exhausting heavy struggle. you can hardly struggle, while your are out. girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20060405

we can assume that main personality is kind of "turned off": Lucrezia/Agatha switches in Sturmhalten. Agatha clearly was oblivious to Lu's actions and talsks with Tarvek. BUT - Agatha then went to sleep. Her personality could be just deadly sleeping, not disconnected.

however, when Lugatha heard that Gil is in danger, Agatha was enraged and pushed Lu aside. Hence repressed main personality (at least in Agatha's case) could intercept information input channels.
Also when she heard music at girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20061018

> what had happened a few moments earlier.
??? there were only few days between Lucrezia copied by Holy Machine nito Agatha and she run away when Klaus captured Sturmhalten city.



Personally i think that either control channels are easier to override then information channels (plausible: you can override weak signal with stronger one, but there ain't reason to override input channel's signals and make yourself blind. Repressed personality can not issue commands, but can perceive), or maybe control channels are treated more important, hence two struggling personalities focus on them and let information eavesdropping continue for a while as minor evil not worth immediate effort.

Posted by: murgatroyd666 (murgatroyd666)
Posted at: May 6th, 2012 09:37 am (UTC)
vonzinzer hmm2

Personally i think that either control channels are easier to override then information channels ...

I would compare it to being trapped in the cellar of a house. You can't see what's going on outside, you can't communicate with the outside world, but you can pound on the door and attempt to escape. When the dominant personality goes to sleep, the door to the cellar becomes unlocked. But Agatha's locket is the equivalent of jamming a chair against the door to prevent it from opening.

Posted by: Ариох (the_arioch)
Posted at: May 6th, 2012 09:22 pm (UTC)

above r at least two examples that Agatha ehard, while repressed
so u have windows on your celar to look out
like in King's "Misery"

Posted by: lightningnettle (lightningnettle)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 03:22 pm (UTC)

My guess is that Zola's up on Castle Wulfenbach with Gil. I half expect her to help free him for some scheme of her own.

Tarvek's in a mess, and getting Agatha updated is going to be very tricky. This is going to be so very interesting to watch.

Posted by: lightningnettle (lightningnettle)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 03:23 pm (UTC)

Tarvek does brood well, doesn't he? I'd like to see that drawing, if you do it. Gil/kilt?

Posted by: murgatroyd666 (murgatroyd666)
Posted at: May 5th, 2012 11:46 pm (UTC)

...with a little storm cloud following him around everywhere hahah

Joe Btfsplk: static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/9/9/3/1/1/a3324554-250-Joe%20Btfsplk.jpg

(Gosh freakin' darn it! When I try to embed links, LiveJournal thinks I'm spamming!)

Posted by: Corgi, Hound of the Internet (sff_corgi)
Posted at: May 8th, 2012 04:18 pm (UTC)
Generic generic icon

And yet, they do not stop the actual spammers. Irony?

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